This podcast episode highlights the challenges and rewards of building an enduring company and transitioning from a remote to in-person culture. It explores the experiences of different employees, emphasizing the importance of flexibility and the desire for a sense of togetherness. The speakers reflect on the emotional challenges of managing a public company and the added responsibility it brings. They also discuss the importance of empowerment and structure in leadership and the impact of early stage startups on personal and professional growth. The episode delves into the experiences of working moms, the intersection of privilege and responsibility, and the value of empathy, teamwork, and self-awareness in startups. It highlights the complex role of supporting visionary founders and the perception versus reality of operating a company. Throughout the conversation, the importance of doing hard things, giving feedback, and having flexibility in meetings is emphasized.