This podcast episode explores the state of Svelte and the impact of React Server Components on web development. It discusses the appeal of React Server Components as the logical next step in the journey to co-locate all aspects of web development together. The section also delves into the drawbacks of using the virtual DOM and the benefits of using Virtual DOM. Additionally, it highlights the evolution of signals in Svelte's reactivity system and the design decisions in Svelte 5. The discussion concludes with a conversation about the use of classes in JavaScript and a lighthearted discussion about cheese pairings.