This podcast episode explores the life and work of renowned spy novelist John le Carré, highlighting his contributions to literature and his experiences as a former spy. It delves into his complex portrayal of British intelligence, the psychological toll of espionage, and the art of interrogation. The episode also discusses le Carré's upbringing and his relationship with his father, as well as intriguing revelations uncovered in his father's Stasi file. Additionally, the episode features an interview with le Carré, discussing his life, his unexpected connection with the KGB, and the success and strain it put on his marriage. It concludes with a preview and review of the film "The Holdovers," directed by Alexander Payne and starring Paul Giamatti.