This podcast episode explores Oracle's growth in the cloud services market and their strategy of interconnectivity with other cloud providers such as Microsoft Azure. It also discusses the challenges and opportunities faced by Oracle, including the high costs of growth and the importance of their position as a standard in the database industry. The episode also touches on topics such as the growth and money extraction strategies of Oracle, the resilience and ambitions of DigitalOcean and the Hershey Company, and the potential impact of weight loss drugs and commodities pricing on Hershey.