Film director/screenwriter Justin Trefgarne talks about Dylan, but also about fathers, sons, archetypes and coincidence. “Bob has been the guardian angel and surrogate father for my entire adult existence,” he tells us. From his first encounter with Like A Rolling Stone (which he played for five hours straight), “everything was up for grabs”. Hear how young Justin paid off a bouncer in Seattle to get seats to his first Dylan concert. How he won a Dylan soundalike contest in Las Vegas. And that time he and Bob had a close encounter in the doorway of the Grateful Dead Tattoo Parlour on Venice Beach.

For the first time on this podcast, we tackle Robert Bly (author of Iron John), Joseph Campbell (author of The Hero’s Journey) and Federico Garcia Lorca’s concept of duende. Oh and - Justin’s pilot father flew three of the Beatles to see Dylan perform at the Isle of Wight Festival (probably).

Justin’s debut feature film as writer-director was the 2015 sci-fi thriller NARCOPOLIS, starring Jonathan Pryce (with a cameo from Kerry Shale). The film spawned a successful graphic novel spin-off. He was head writer on the Nickelodeon reboot of children’s classic PETER RABBIT, for which he was nominated for an Emmy. Justin devised and wrote all ten episodes of the YouTube Original series SHERWOOD, which has had over 70m views. Other writer/director credits include DESIRE, starring Damian Lewis, which opened the Sundance Film Festival. He has also written screenplays for Film4, The BFI and Ruby Films. Justin recently wrote and directed on THE RAZUMOV FILES, a six-part audio-series starring Jessica Brown Findlay.

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Recorded 16th June 2022

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Justin Trefgarne

Is It Rolling, Bob? Talking Dylan