This episode explores the design process at Apple during Steve Jobs' tenure, as detailed in Ken Kocienda's "Creative Selection." Against the backdrop of Vince Lombardi's focus on perfecting a single play to achieve excellence, the podcast analyzes Steve Jobs' emphasis on iterative demos and clear, concise feedback to drive product development. More significantly, the podcast highlights Jobs' unwavering commitment to simplicity and intuitive design, exemplified by his focus on the user experience and his rejection of excessive features. For instance, a detailed anecdote recounts a demo where Jobs, with only four sentences, decisively chose a keyboard design based on his judgment and the designer's feedback. In contrast to Apple's approach, the podcast discusses Google's data-driven design process, highlighting the limitations of relying solely on data without a strong design vision. The episode concludes by emphasizing the importance of "taste" and "conviction" in product design, drawing parallels between Apple's success and the enduring principles of great work from the past. This means for product developers that a strong vision and iterative feedback, guided by a deep understanding of the user, are crucial for creating truly exceptional products.