This podcast episode explores the transformative experience of walking the Camino de Santiago pilgrimage in northwestern Spain. It delves into the significance of the pilgrimage and highlights the diverse community of pilgrims. The episode also discusses the importance of embracing uncertainty, developing a personal philosophy, and the impact of relationships on personal growth. It delves into topics such as masculinity, fantasy addiction, digital distraction, and the concept of liminality. The podcast episode concludes with discussions on the mother complex in men's lives and the value of working with cohorts in recovery.