This podcast episode delves deep into the intricacies of Andre Alexis's story "Before the Change," examining its themes, structure, and the moral ambiguities that define its characters. Through detailed analysis, Treisman and Alexis uncover the profound connections between the narrative's epistolary form and its exploration of intimacy, jealousy, and self-discovery, ultimately highlighting the unsettling yet liberating nature of the story's conclusion. The episode concludes with a heartfelt reflection on Alice Munro's influence on contemporary literature, showcasing how her approach to storytelling continues to resonate with writers and readers alike.