This podcast episode explores the challenges and opportunities of bringing real-world assets (RWAs) onto the blockchain. The experts discuss the history of RWA tokenization efforts, the challenges of migrating traditional assets to the blockchain, and the potential benefits of tokenizing assets such as treasuries and private credit. They also touch on the impact of staking derivatives and tokenized treasuries on the DeFi ecosystem, the dynamics between on-chain and off-chain interest rates, and the potential for synthetic forms of traditional assets. The conversation concludes with a discussion of the controversial Arkham platform and its Docs to Earn model, which has raised concerns about the potential misuse of on-chain data.