This podcast episode delves into the journey of Mike Pfotenhauer and Greg Lowe, two founders who have driven Osprey Packs to its current success. From humble beginnings in Santa Cruz to the expansion into wholesaling and the ultimate move to Vietnam for production, the episode explores the challenges, motivations, and decisions that have shaped the company's history. Mike's personal experiences with a peyote ceremony and the impact of culture shock in Vietnam provide unique perspectives, while his decision to focus solely on design and avoid the CEO role makes him a unique and relatable founder.