This podcast episode features a conversation with Alessia, the founder of Code & Wander agency, who discusses the benefits and considerations of using Webflow and Framer as web design tools. The discussion covers factors such as the CMS functionality, reusability of components, complexity of the CMS, presence of in-house developers, and development speed. The episode explores the differences between Framer and Webflow in terms of animations and complex websites, highlighting Framer's built-in animations and Webflow's flexibility. The conversation also touches on the importance of extensibility and open APIs, clients' platform preferences, the future of web design tools, and recommendations for creative portfolios. Overall, the episode provides insights into the evolving landscape of web design platforms and the need for designers to adapt and find the best solutions for their specific use cases.