This podcast episode explores the challenges of pseudo teams and performance groups in senior teams, emphasizing the importance of a true team structure with clear goals and disciplines. It distinguishes between performance teams and real teams, discussing their characteristics and requirements in different contexts. The episode also highlights the obstacles of bringing everyone together without a clear objective and the importance of autonomy in senior roles. It delves into the CCC model of forming a real team and addresses the challenges of commitment, power needs, trust, psychological safety, and building a safe environment for team members. The speaker also shares personal experiences and stories to illustrate key points.