This podcast episode explores the work and artistic journey of painter Zoey Frank, focusing on her approach to creating large-scale, multiple figure compositions. The discussion covers topics such as the challenges and considerations of working on monumental works, the artist's evolving style and techniques, the importance of tonal painting and structural elements, the shift from classical training to abstract thinking, the artist's experimentation with color palettes and pigments, and the interplay between abstraction and representational figures. The episode also touches on the artist's process of canvas mounting, the fascination with painting groups of figures, the challenges of writing about painting, and the exploration of art psychoanalysis. Throughout the conversation, the artist emphasizes the importance of experimentation, freedom, personal perspective, and the playful nature of creating art.