This podcast episode explores the global management of over $2 trillion in assets through sustainable investment equity strategies, including ESG and impact investing. The speakers discuss the importance of returns in sustainable investing and highlight the potential of impact investing to address significant societal challenges. They emphasize that impact investing is not just a branding tool and can align with the future of investment capital. The conversation also delves into the investment opportunities in service businesses aligned with sustainability goals and the need to measure both impact and returns in the sustainable investing space. Overall, the episode underscores the potential of impact investing to deliver both financial returns and positive societal impact, and its ability to reshape the role of business in society.