This podcast episode delves into the history of the United States, framing it as an empire. The hosts begin by discussing the origins of the American national anthem, highlighting its British composition and the complexities of American identity formation. They then interview historian Camilla Townsend about Pocahontas, challenging common misconceptions and presenting a more nuanced historical account of her life within the Powhatan tribe and her interactions with the English colonists. The episode also touches upon the devastating impact of European diseases on the indigenous population and the role of corporations in early American colonization. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of the multifaceted nature of early American history, moving beyond simplified narratives.