This podcast episode explores the artistic journey and perspectives of Frank Stella, a renowned artist known for his geometric forms and abstract paintings. Stella's fascination with squares and geometric shapes as a painting element, his evolution from black striped paintings to vibrant colors, and his perspective on fame and the art world are discussed. The podcast also includes conversations about the transition from house painting to painting canvases, the shift from representational art to abstract art, and the experience of being at an artistic dead end. The episode pays tribute to Duane Eddy, an influential guitarist in early rock and roll, and discusses his career and contributions to the genre. Additionally, the episode discusses Colm Tobin's novel "Long Island," a sequel to "Brooklyn," which tells the story of Eilish Lacey's journey through different seasons of her life and explores themes of fate, family dynamics, and the complexity of relationships.