This podcast episode explores various topics, including the FISA debate and the unequal treatment of U.S. citizens and non-U.S. citizens in surveillance, Intel's Gaudi AI processor and its comparison to Nvidia's legacy H100, Zscaler's acquisition of AirGap Networks and their proposition to replace NAC and internal firewalls, the Redis license change and fork involving major cloud providers and Guarantia, the implications of using open source software in business, the U.S. government's funding of TSMC for chip fabrication plants in Arizona, the need for human talent in chip making facilities and the potential backlash in recruitment efforts, the transition to a comprehensive network security approach, the importance of working together and using APIs, and Fortinet's integration of NAC features into their OS and the Fortinet security fabric.