This podcast episode features a conversation between Logan Bartlett and Armon Dadgar, co-founder of HashiCorp. They discuss the recent acquisition of HashiCorp by IBM and the emotions surrounding it, as well as HashiCorp's unique approach to building their company. They delve into the thought process behind modularity, the importance of pragmatism, the challenges of product development, the significance of developer evangelism, and the evolution of HashiCorp's product portfolio. The conversation also touches on fundraising, branding strategy, and the importance of trust in customer relationships. Additionally, they discuss the decision-making process of giving up the CEO title, the value of mentoring and whiteboarding sessions, and the challenges faced by first-time founders. The episode concludes with discussions on cultural fit, the Tao of HashiCorp, and the importance of an asynchronous and written culture in a rapidly growing company.