This podcast episode explores the intersection of sports and film, focusing on the portrayal of sports in movies and the themes they explore. The hosts discuss the movie "Challengers," which incorporates both sports and sex, challenging traditional depictions of gender roles in sports movies. They also delve into other sports movies like "The Iron Claw" and discuss how they subvert expectations and explore the dark side of masculinity. The conversation touches on the importance of pain and psychological realism in sports movies, as well as representation and addressing real issues. The hosts discuss the storytelling structure in sports movies and the use of sports as metaphors. Overall, the episode highlights the evolving nature of sports movies and the possibilities they offer in addressing toxic masculinity and representing women in sports.