This podcast episode explores the progress of building zero-waste cities in China and the challenges individuals face in adopting a zero-waste lifestyle. The conversation highlights the increasing awareness of water consumption and plastic waste, as well as the efforts made by Chinese cities and rural areas to overcome waste reduction challenges. The concept of zero-waste cities and the pilot program aiming to establish index systems for no-waste cities are discussed, along with the economic challenges of balancing consumption and sustainability. The importance of proper waste management, recycling, and achieving zero-waste cells within cities is emphasized. The episode also touches on the power struggle between fossil fuel companies and green technology developers and the role of legislation, government support, and innovation in achieving zero-waste objectives.