This podcast episode features Tchegofatio Mabaso, an artist, curator, and researcher based in Cape Town, South Africa. Tchegofatio discusses her journey into curating, emphasizing the importance of research, collaboration, and creating experiences for audiences within specific spaces. The episode explores topics such as the value of collaboration, the evolving concept of collectivity in curatorial practice, the role of vulnerability in curating within institutions, challenging traditional modes of communication for curators, activating unseen areas of institutions, engaging with artists and their work within limited budgets, incorporating co-creation and collectives in museums, the challenges faced by big institutions in collecting performance art, the concept of living archives, the importance of decolonial practice in museums, the financial and cultural benefits of Western museums, the Edit Your Pride project, the concept of decentralized knowledge, and the relevance of primary source knowledge in cultural institutions.