This podcast episode explores the relationship between air pollution, energy poverty, and climate change. It discusses the importance of addressing air pollution and its impact on public health, as well as the strategies that have been successful in reducing air pollution, such as policy controls and public pressure. The episode also delves into the need to combat climate change by reducing emissions, keeping temperatures as low as possible, and understanding the concepts of feedback loops and tipping points. It explores the complexities of the energy transition and the concerns around material requirements and mining. The episode highlights the drivers of deforestation, the role of food production in driving climate change and biodiversity loss, and the benefits of a plant-based diet. It emphasizes the importance of data-driven decision-making and the need for both individual actions and large-scale construction to address the climate crisis. The episode concludes by discussing the shift from an environmentalism focused on stopping destructive behaviors to one focused on building sustainable alternatives and the role of data, solutions, and generalist thinking in driving change.