This podcast episode explores the cultural and spiritual significance of fire for the Mangara Balurong Nyungar people of Australia, as well as the destructive nature of controlled burns carried out by government agencies. It highlights the importance of practicing traditional fire management methods, such as cultural burning and Kal Ngarin, to promote the well-being of the land and its inhabitants. The speakers emphasize the deep connection between fire, identity, and spirituality for Indigenous communities and advocate for a change in fire management practices to protect the environment and respect cultural law.