This podcast episode explores the experience of teaching painting and the concept of an ideal in art, emphasizing the complexity and challenge of teaching while striving for objectivity in the subjective world of art. The episode also discusses the lasting impact of paintings, the importance of aesthetics in art, and the influence of color selection on artistic expression. It delves into the concept of bad art and the role of aesthetics in shaping human behavior and thinking. The speaker shares their approach to color selection and the evolution of their color palette. Overall, the episode showcases the beauty of diverse perspectives in art and invites listeners to engage with and support the work of artist Ken Goshen.