This podcast episode explores the concept of spirit in art, design, and curation. The speakers discuss the role of spirit in embodying meaning in clothing and artworks, the search for the spirit in visionary art, and the transformative power of combining post-colonial diasporic linkages with spirit and material. They also delve into the relationship between intimacy in making clothing and curatorial work, the importance of readiness and consent in engaging with art, and the significance of sonics and sound in shaping the aesthetic experience. The conversation highlights the profound impact of spirit and intimacy in these creative endeavors and the need to approach art with reverence and deep intention.