This podcast episode explores the latest developments in the blockchain space, including the launch of Mantle as a new Layer 2 network for Ethereum and the potential of Celo to become a Layer 2 as well. The episode also features an interview with Anthony Pompliano, where he shares his thoughts on the future of Bitcoin and Ethereum. The discussion covers topics such as the evolution of Bitcoin and Ethereum since 2018, the surge in institutional adoption of Bitcoin, the evolving coverage of cryptocurrencies in the mainstream media, the impact of Bitcoin ETFs, the integration of Bitcoin into traditional finance, the implications of institutional adoption on the crypto industry, the role of Bitcoin evangelists, the debate between Bitcoin fundamentalists and Bitcoin Renaissance proponents, the collision between TradFi and social layer-based technology, the US government's response to cryptocurrencies, and the speakers' experiences and perspectives on the crypto space. The episode concludes with discussions on financial literacy and teaching personal finance to high school students.