This podcast episode explores the impact of digital learning in the workplace and the importance of deliberate and purposeful design in learning programs. It discusses the low inclusion of explicit design roles in organizations and the potential influence of a consumerist view of convenience on work patterns. The episode highlights the need for effective communication, clarity in expectations, and the limitations of traditional training approaches. It emphasizes the significance of designing learning through user-centered and human-centered design approaches. The episode also discusses the importance of creating an empowering environment for learners, curating content, and designing engaging online learning experiences. It explores the potential of learning management systems and AI chatbots in the field of learning, emphasizing the need for a balanced perspective and continuous exploration. Overall, the episode emphasizes the importance of effective learning design, variety in training methods, and continuous curiosity in leveraging new developments in learning.