This podcast episode explores the rise and fall of the Menace skateboard company, reflecting on its impact on the skateboarding community and the challenges it faced. The speakers reminisce about their own skateboarding journeys, highlighting the importance of finding passion and resilience in the face of obstacles. They also discuss the significance of respect and camaraderie in the skateboarding community during the late eighties and nineties. The conversation delves into their involvement with Powell Peralta and the making of the Propaganda video, as well as the impact of Stacey Peralta leaving Powell. The speakers share personal stories of navigating dangerous environments and the skateboarding scene in Los Angeles during the 1990s. They also discuss their experiences with other skateboarding brands and the transition from skateboarding to other pursuits. The conversation touches on the creation of iconic skate videos, such as 20 Shot Sequence, and the complex relationship between skaters and the business side of the industry. The speakers reflect on missed opportunities and challenges faced by Menace due to frequent name changes and the significance of fatherhood in their lives. The episode concludes with discussions on upcoming projects, the return of influential figures in the skateboarding industry, and the challenges faced by skateboarders in the current landscape.