This podcast episode explores the potential energy consumption of AI data centers and the implications for the environment. It discusses the increasing importance of power in tech companies' operations, as well as the challenges and risks associated with meeting the energy demands of AI. The episode highlights the role of big tech companies in shaping power generation and the need for collaboration with utilities to optimize energy efficiency. It also delves into the challenges faced by utilities in managing the growing demand for electricity from data centers and emphasizes the need for a more sustainable and decarbonized electric grid. Lastly, it explores the potential of novel technologies and the role of data centers in becoming more flexible grid resources.