This podcast episode explores the concept of third millennium thinking, which involves rational and reasonable decision-making. The guests estimate that only a small percentage of the population currently uses this type of thinking. The episode discusses the challenges and importance of rational thinking in areas such as free speech, decision-making, scientific research, and climate analysis. It emphasizes the need for self-questioning, collaboration, blinding data, and triangulation to ensure reliable and objective results. The episode also explores the role of education in promoting third millennium thinking and the challenges of communicating scientific information effectively.