One is a retired Navy SEAL. The other is an award-winning business executive. Together they’ve built a company called Culture Force. Dare I say both the company and their new book is a force to be reckoned with.

Their new book (released August 29, 2023), has quickly become a favorite among those in my Read to Lead Community online. It’s easy to see why.

Leadership as it is, just isn’t working. Say Chris and Kyle, despite the countless seminars, courses, and management books designed to hone good leaders, over 79% of employees leave their jobs due to poor leadership. Why is this happening? Chris and Kyle argue that organizations need more than just leaders. They need successful teams.

Both Chris and Kyle are passionate about how our leadership model has failed and spotlight a new work culture that actually works. In their book, they draw on the SEAL model and on their decades of knowledge and experience coaching industry leaders to answer the question: what makes a productive team? The surprising truth is that behind every successful team is a cadre of empowered, self-starting employees.

I hope you’ll click the play button below to learn more about Chris and Kyle’s and their work. For a summary, just keep scrolling.

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In today’s episode, I ask Chris and Kyle about:

* Why every organization has to learn to “kill” its leader before it’s too late

* How they ultimately define culture, vision, and values

* The seemingly counterintuitive idea that self-led teams must first follow a leader

* And lots more!

Order Chris and Kyle’s Book

You can order your copy of Leadership is Overrated: How the Navy SEALS (and Successful Businesses) Create Self-Leading Teams That Win right now!

Consider Ordering My Book Too!

Purchase a copy of my new book (written with Jesse Wisnewski) Read to Lead: The Simple Habit That Expands Your Influence and Boosts Your Career. There, you can also download the introduction and first chapter for free!

Note-Making Mastery Cohort AND the Read to Lead Community

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Chris and Kyle in Action Elsewhere

Check out Chris and Kyle on my friend Kevin Eikenberry’s podcast

497: How to Create Self-Leading Teams That Win with Kyle Buckett and Chris Mefford

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