The media may have moved on from its wall-to-wall coverage of the killing of Tyre Nichols, but the nation is still hurting. This week, we’re discussing how incorrectly diagnosing the problem of police brutality has led to a system that hurts everyone. We’re joined by Heather McGhee, author and chair of the racial justice organization Color of Change, and Phillip Atiba Goff, Ph.D. Chair and Carl I. Hovland Professor of African American Studies and Professor of Psychology at Yale University. Dr. Goff is also the cofounder and CEO at Center For Policing Equity. They share their thoughts on why armed cops shouldn’t be doing minor traffic stops, how the system changes a cop from the inside out, and how investing in human infrastructure is our best solution to the ongoing problem of police brutality. Also, writers Rob Christensen and Kasaun Wilson weigh in on the sensationalization of the body cam footage and their own run-ins with the law.

Season 2 is now streaming on Apple TV+.

CREDITS Hosted by: Jon Stewart

Featuring, in order of appearance: Heather McGhee, Phillip Atiba Goff, Kasaun Wilson, Rob Christensen

Executive Produced by Jon Stewart, Brinda Adhikari, James Dixon, Chris McShane, and Richard Plepler

Lead Producer: Sophie Erickson

Producers: Zach Goldbaum, Caity Gray

Assoc. Producer: Andrea Betanzos

Editor: Zach Silberberg

Editor & Sound Engineer: Miguel Carrascal

Senior Digital Producer: Freddie Morgan

Digital Producer: Cassie Murdoch

Digital Coordinator: Norma Hernandez

Supervising Producer: Lorrie Baranek

Head Writer: Kris Acimovic

Elements Producer: Kenneth Hull

Clearances Producer: Daniella Philipson

Senior Talent Producer: Brittany Mehmedovic

Talent Manager: Marjorie McCurry

Talent Coordinator: Lukas Thimm

Senior Research Producer: Susan Helvenston

Theme Music by: Gary Clark Jr.

The Problem With Jon Stewart podcast is an Apple TV+ podcast, produced by Busboy Productions.

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