This podcast episode explores the challenges faced by news media in covering Donald Trump and his supporters, focusing on the recent controversy surrounding NBC's hiring of Ronna McDaniel as a contributor. The episode discusses the struggle to accurately report on Trump's lies and challenges to democratic norms without alienating his base of supporters. It also highlights the backlash from NBC staff and personalities, who question McDaniel's credibility and argue that her presence undermines the network's integrity. The episode delves into the complex relationship between journalism and ratings during the Trump presidency, as well as the challenges faced by CNN and NBC in navigating the partisan divide and maintaining journalistic standards while appealing to broad audiences. Additionally, it touches on the large-scale protests in Israel against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government.